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IDP Conclusion to this page:

300,000,000+ American people (all people on all nations) do not have to overthrow any lawful we the people government - because we do not have lawful government and have not had one since 1860. Americans do not even need to load their guns! They simply have to leave the DC Roman Cult private satanist club - called the UNITED STATES - a franchise of the un-holy Roman cult (insert your nation here if you are not in America), a Federal Corporation [Title 28 Section 3002 (15)(A)].  Withdraw membership from the unholy Roman cult - Rothschilds ZION and take your share in America back and go back to the land on which your  sacred un-alienabke birthrights are in tact and respected by those like you.    Leave those under the Unholy Roman cult in DC to their lies, thieving, satanic cult...  America no longer needs to put up with the Bull Shit that we have been experiencing under the Satanists, pedophiles running America and the world as their PRIVATE IN JUST US Corporation! Those deliberately running America and the states in to the Ground from DC since the 1860's! Take back your children and life energy! Unlearn - re-educate - pass forward... and remember ... everything you have been told and the generations before you were told is a lie! 

Parts of this thread were reposted from an original post by Posted by JimBobWay on  5/20/2010, 7:39:50 PM & an excerpt from http://lonang.com/commentaries/foundation/right-to-alter-or-abolish-government/ that wrongly assumes UNITED STATES in power today is the same we the people organic United States governance - WHICH IT IS NOT! The current UNITED STATES is a creation of the coup of the states created American Union.  

Ben Frank said...

“The only thing more expensive than education is ignorance.”

The dumbing down of America was no accident, but a calculated assault on our freedom.


Note from IDP; My research suggests that America was established from the start as a Masonic Nation with a secret hidden agenda to bring about a One World Order. Funding of the cause was via the crown and funds from the East. 

Here is Proof of California's Masonic heritage which can be found on the seal off the so called California Supreme Court:


When one looks to Occult heritage and then at what was said and done one is left with a sense that there was a bi-polar rift going on with the founders. While some may have favored connection with the Crown - their documents and acts enacted by them would suggests they really wanted to do the right thing for America and the people... 

It would certainly be an interesting adventure if one were able to go back and interview them! 

Regardless of the truth of the above - the most damning event that thwarted the agenda of the hidden hand was the Titles of Nobility Act which was followed by the War of 1812 and the Treaty of Ghent!  I and others believe the War of 1812 was in part triggered by TONA Amendment XIII which directly targeted the ability of the Crown to wage a silent war on America and its people using their BAR Attorney army of the Rothschilds which was working in league with they central bankers as they have continued to do to this day which is what allows the US DC System to steal American's property, IP, Rights, Children and labor with out due process of law and in violation of the principal of equality under the law! Americans have lost some 20,000,000 homes in recent years, thousands of children, business and land all stollen by ILLEGAL BAR parasite attorneys banned forever by TONA from ever setting foot on the fifty Free and Independent states of America! The fact that there are now some 750,000 Crown attorneys waging war on America and against American interests ought to help you further see through the self evident truths revealed on this site about who is waring on America and making rules and codes to allow Americans to be thieved from  and violating the laws of our land that were written to protect our unalienable rights. 

Now - despite the British and their hired mercenaries burning DC and numerous court housed to the ground - they did not extinguish proof that TONA was law of the land. No act was every passed to terminate TONA XIII and it stands today despite the fact that parasitic entities of the un-Holy Roman cult and the BAR have tried to suggest it never existed which a read of the TONA documents on this site will prove is a ludicrous claim! It is also to be noted that the DC UNITED STATE Corp relied on the organic Constitution for their private corporate byelaws! They deliberately deleted Amendment XIII and made some other changes! The fact that these TWO documents existed is further proof of the fraud the the DC UNITED STATES is and the fact that it wanted to bring foreign usurpers in to American to overthrow our natural law forms and sacred organic acts that stand as law to this day! 

So - we are left with TONA as law of the land - and all those under its head light are engaged in Sedition and Treason per TONA. There is no escaping this fact. What this also tells us is that the UNITED STATES DC Government given as Title 28 Section 3002 (15) (a) is not an American government but an occupying force of the Crown and Un-Holy Roman see employed to control and subjugate the American people and steal our rights and property and it has been engaged in this crime since 1868. The Secret Treaty of Verona is the confession of this coup!  

Now if we compare the principals on which America was founded and what we ended up with under the un-Holy Roman Cult DC United States we can absolutley see that US DC US Corp. took us off track! 

It is also self parent from the Declaration of Independence hat Government is by the consent of the Governed.  In other words - if we do not want to be ruled by the un-Holy Roman cult then we do not have to be! 

It was decided a long time ago that the American people have a God-given right to alter or abolish the U.S. government or any state government and to replace them with something new, Do the American people realized that without this type of radical thinking, there wouldn’t be a United States of America at all? Let’s put it into context, the Declaration of Independence states:

We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are … endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights…. That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men…. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. … Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security

Declaration of Independence (1776).

It seems that the current UNITED STATES DC Federal Corporation does not agree with its own law of the land! Why because its not an Organic The United States Government or United States Government and its taken steps to make sure nothing like what happened in the American Revolution ever happens again. First, they have taken pains to discredit the Declaration and to restrict the way it is taught in government approved curricula and government sponsored schools including universities (Crown Indoctrination centers). Second, they have enacted statutes to strongly discourage any “throwing off” of the government, to wit:

Rebellion or insurrection.

    Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof … shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both…. 18 U.S.C. §2383.

Seditious conspiracy

    If two or more persons … in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, … they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both. 18 U.S.C. §2384.

Advocating overthrow of Government.

     Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State … by force or violence, * * * Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both…. 18 U.S.C. §2385.

Just let the above words sink in for a moment.

First we have a quotation from the founding document of our nation - what is Organic law of the land, beloved and cherished by Americans and the world as one of the most important documents every written for well over 200 years, to the effect that people have not only the right, but the duty, to throw off an abusive, despotic or tyrannical government which tramples on their individual rights as this Occupying Corporation is doing and has been doing since 1868 as this site will prove catagorically. 

Then we have foreign agents pretending to be Organic government employed by UNITED STATES Federal Corporation owned and controlled by the un-Holy Roman cult - jesuit Generals et al making private rules and codes for their DC limited Jurisdiction UNITED STATES federal Corporation enacted by foreigners banned from American government due to TONA! The private rules and codes state that if one overthrows the existing government, conspires to overthrow it, or advocates its overthrow – without regard to whether those actions might actually be justified because the government has become abusive, despotic or tyrannical then one is violating the law enshrined in the Declaration of Independence.

Now again - what this ought to inform Americans is that UNITED STATES is an occupying de facto - inposter corporate government pretending to be an American government! 

Which illustrates a truism – the people have an absolute right to alter or abolish any given form of government, but the persons in power absolutely never want people to exercise that right.  

Note UNITED STATES can only write corporate rules and codes that apply to corporations in its DC Jurisdiction which is limited 68.34 sq miles of DC! Why - because it was created by Act of 1871 which was creation of a municipal corporation to manage DC. It has no chain of title to any of the four founding acts that created America! ITS A FRAUD occupying Ameirca and making up phony laws to control 300,000,000+ American people! 

300,000,000+ American people (all people on all nations) do not have to overthrow any lawful we the people government - because we do not have lawful government and have not had one since 1860. Americans do not even need to load their guns! They simply have to leave the DC Roman Cult private satanist club - called the UNITED STATES - a franchise of the un-holy Roman cult (insert your nation here if you are not in America), a Federal Corporation [Title 28 Section 3002 (15)(A)].  Withdraw membership from the unholy Roman cult - Rothschilds ZION and take your share in America back and go back to the land on which your  sacred un-alienabke birthrights are in tact and respected by those like you.    Leave those under the Unholy Roman cult in DC to their lies, thieving, satanic cult...  America no longer needs to put up with the Bull Shit that we have been experiencing under the Satanists, pedophiles running America and the world as their PRIVATE IN JUST US Corporation! Those deliberately running America and the states in to the Ground from DC since the 1860's! Take back your children and life energy! Unlearn - re-educate - pass forward... and remember ... everything you have been told and the generations before you were told is a lie! 

Now lets look at some more proof that its not an American government following the law of the land: 

I found this following two document concerning founding beliefs of the founders quite useful to help people compare where we were with what we have ended up with under the Couped Corporate congress: 

The first list 5 priciplals and the second: 28 fundamental beliefs of the Founding Fathers which they said must be understood and perpetuated by every people who desired peace, prosperity, and freedom...

It is stated on the original post that these beliefs have made possible more progress in 200 years than was made previously achieved in over 5,000 years. Thus the title "The 5,000 Year Leap".

The following is a brief overview of the principles found in The 5,000 Year Leap, and one chapter is devoted to each of these 28 principles...

We now know of course that in these last several thousand years and especially the last 200 years progress has been thwarted by a hidden hand in the form of a small  number of parasitical old world order families that has controlled global society to keep the people down and them in control. They have kept us in perpetual war and over the last 300 years reliant on old technology for the reason that the controllers could control the technology and through it control we the people. This author is directly aware of technology that has been stifled to keep us away from using free energy technology and 100% water recycling technology for the controllers know that once the people have this their gig is up! May that day come very very soon! 

Note the principals are a direct report from the following site and are not a work of anyone at IDP.  On reading through them I would ask the reader to consider what principals have been directly undermined by the DC ROMAN CULT of DC, UNITED STATES over shadowed by their Fascist symbology embedded in the wall of the overthrown peoples has! 

IDP comment - I will come back to this document and highlighted every principal that has been voided, abolished by the un-holy Roman cult controlled UNITED STATES Corporation that couped our The United States of America National and fifty states governance.  

What were the Founding Principles?

Everybody talks about Founding Principles—sometimes called First Principles—but what are these bedrock values that formed the basis of the American Experiment.

I believe there were five principles of government that were firmly held by all fifty-five delegates to the Constitutional Convention.

These principles directed the design of the Constitution of the United States of America.

1. Rights come from God, not government

This Founding Principle is actually embedded in our Declaration of Independence:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

The Founders didn’t believe governments bestowed rights, nor were they an agent to protect rights—governments were the ones that abridged rights.

2. All political power emanates from the people

The Founders were strongly influenced by John Locke, who advocated government as a social contract. The term, will of the governed, encapsulates this concept, which means the people are boss. The power of the people is declared in the first three words of the Constitution, “We the people …” This principle is also the underlying basis for our Declaration of Independence, “governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.”

This principle dictated that conventions of the people were the only authorizing force to ratify the Constitution. Neither Congress nor the state legislatures had the power.

Delegate William Paterson, author of the New Jersey Plan, wrote, “What is a Constitution? It is the form of government, delineated by the mighty hand of the people, in which certain first principles of fundamental law are established.”

3. Limited representative republic

The Founders believed in limited government in the form of a representative republic. They distrusted a direct democracy, because they equated it to mob rule. James Madison constantly preached against any system that allowed special interests (factions) to gain control of the government. He showed that throughout history, majority factions tyrannized minorities, whether the minorities be based on race, wealth, religion, or even geography.

The Founders believed that to protect against government oppression, they must disperse power, and give each branch of government formidable checks on the authority of every other branch. By the end of the Constitutional Convention, the Founders also came to firmly believe that the states must act as a solid check on the national government. Last, monarchies had general power, so they would give the national government only delineated powers.

4. Written Constitution

If government is a social contract, and it has only limited power formally delegated by the people, then the contract—Constitution—must be in writing. The strongest proponent of a written constitution was Thomas Paine, who said, “[A]n unwritten constitution is not a constitution at all.” This may seem commonplace today, but England, the most powerful nation on earth, had no written constitution. This was different in America, however, where all thirteen states had a written constitution. This American tradition goes back to the Mayflower Compact. Our national heritage is a written constitution that sets the rules for governance between the people and their elected representatives. The Founders intent was that this contract would only be changed through the amendment process.

5. Private Property Rights

The Founders were influenced by Adam Smith, and were firm believers in private property rights. In their minds, private property rights were intertwined with liberty. True liberty would never allow the government to come at any time and take a person’s property. That would be Divine Right, which they had fought eight bloody years to escape.

James Madison said, “As a man is said to have a right to his property, he may be equally said to have a property in his rights.” He meant that even if a person owned nothing else, he still owned his rights, which were the most valuable property of all.

The Constitutional Convention delegates didn’t agree on everything. In fact, they possibly only agreed on these Founding Principles. After all, they did argue for four months about the design of the government.

James D. Best is the author of Tempest at Dawn, a novel about the 1787 Constitutional Convention.

Read more at: http://www.volusia912.org/The_28_Principles.pdf


Principle 1 - The only reliable basis for sound government and just human relations is Natural Law. Natural law is God's law. There are certain laws which govern the entire universe, and just as Thomas Jefferson said in the Declaration of Independence, there are laws which govern in the affairs of men which are "the laws of nature and of nature's God." 

Principle 2 - A free people cannot survive under a republican constitution unless they remain virtuous and morally strong. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Benjamin Franklin 

Principle 3 - The most promising method of securing a virtuous people is to elect virtuous leaders. "Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. He therefore is the truest friend to the liberty of his country who tries most to promote its virtue, and who ... will not suffer a man to be chosen into any office of power and trust who is not a wise and virtuous man." - Samuel Adams 

Principle 4 - Without religion the government of a free people cannot be maintained. "Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports.... And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion." - George Washington 

Principle 5 - All things were created by God, therefore upon him all mankind are equally dependent, and to him they are equally responsible. The American Founding Fathers considered the existence of the Creator as the most fundamental premise underlying all self-evident truth. They felt a person who boasted he or she was an atheist had just simply failed to apply his or her divine capacity for reason and observation. 

Principle 6 - All mankind were created equal. The Founders knew that in these three ways, all mankind are theoretically treated as: 1. Equal before God. 2. Equal before the law. 3. Equal in their rights. 

Principle 7 - The proper role of government is to protect equal rights, not provide equal things. The Founders recognized that the people cannot delegate to their government any power except that which they have the lawful right to exercise themselves. 

Principle 8 - Mankind are endowed by God with certain unalienable rights. "Those rights, then, which God and nature have established, and are therefore called natural rights, such as are life and liberty, need not the aid of human laws to be more effectually invested in every man than they are; neither do they receive any additional strength when declared by the municipal [or state] laws to be inviolable. On the contrary, no human legislation has power to abridge or destroy them, unless the owner [of the right] shall himself commit some act that amounts to a forfeiture." - William Blackstone 

Principle 9 - To protect human rights, God has revealed a code of divine law. "The doctrines thus delivered we call the revealed or divine law, and they are to be found only in the Holy Scriptures. These precepts, when revealed, are found by comparison to be really a part of the original law of nature, as they tend in all their consequences to man's felicity." - William Blackstone 


Principle 10 - The God-given right to govern is vested in the sovereign authority of the whole people. "The fabric of American empire ought to rest on the solid basis of the consent of the people. The streams of national power ought to flow immediately from that pure, original fountain of all legislative authority." - Alexander Hamilton 


Principle 11 - The majority of the people may alter or abolish a government which has become tyrannical. "Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes ... but when a long train of abuses and usurpations ... evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." - Thomas Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence 


Principle 12 - The United States of America shall be a republic. "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America And to the republic for which it stands...." 


Principle 13 - A Constitution should protect the people from the frailties of their rulers. "If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary.... [But lacking these] you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself." - James Madison 


Principle 14 - Life and liberty are secure only so long as the rights of property are secure. John Locke reasoned that God gave the earth and everything in it to the whole human family as a gift. Therefore the land, the sea, the acorns in the forest, the deer feeding in the meadow belong to everyone "in common." However, the moment someone takes the trouble to change something from its original state of nature, that person has added his ingenuity or labor to make that change. Herein lies the secret to the origin of "property rights." 


Principle 15 - The highest level of prosperity occurs when there is a free-market economy and a minimum of government regulations. Prosperity depends upon a climate of wholesome stimulation with four basic freedoms in operation: 1. The Freedom to try. 2. The Freedom to buy. 3. The Freedom to sell. 4. The Freedom to fail. 


Principle 16 - The government should be separated into three branches. "I call you to witness that I was the first member of the Congress who ventured to come out in public, as I did in January 1776, in my Thoughts on Government ... in favor of a government with three branches and an independent judiciary. This pamphlet, you know, was very unpopular. No man appeared in public to support it but yourself." - John Adams 


Principle 17 - A system of checks and balances should be adopted to prevent the abuse of power by the different branches of government. "It will not be denied that power is of an encroaching nature and that it ought to be effectually restrained from passing the limits assigned to it." - James Madison 


Principle 18 - The unalienable rights of the people are most likely to be preserved if the principles of government are set forth in a written Constitution. The structure of the American system is set forth in the Constitution of the United States and the only weaknesses which have appeared are those which were allowed to creep in despite the Constitution. 


Principle 19 - Only limited and carefully defined powers should be delegated to government, all others being retained by the people. The Tenth Amendment is the most widely violated provision of the bill of rights. If it had been respected and enforced America would be an amazingly different country than it is today. This amendment provides: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." 


Principle 20 - Efficiency and dispatch require that the government operate according to the will of the majority, but constitutional provisions must be made to protect the rights of the minority. "Every man, by consenting with others to make one body politic under one government, puts himself under an obligation to every one of that society to submit to the determination of the majority, and to be concluded [bound] by it." - John Locke 


Principle 21 - Strong local self-government is the keystone to preserving human freedom. "The way to have good and safe government is not to trust it all to one, but to divide it among the many, distributing to every one exactly the functions he is competent [to perform best]. - Thomas Jefferson 


Principle 22 - A free people should be governed by law and not by the whims of men. "The end of law is not to abolish or restrain, but to preserve and enlarge freedom. For in all the states of created beings, capable of laws, where there is no law there is no freedom. For liberty is to be free from restraint and violence of others, which cannot be where there is no law." - John Locke 


Principle 23 - A free society cannot survive as a republic without a broad program of general education. "They made an early provision by law that every town consisting of so many families should be always furnished with a grammar school. They made it a crime for such a town to be destitute of a grammar schoolmaster for a few months, and subjected it to a heavy penalty. So that the education of all ranks of people was made the care and expense of the public, in a manner that I believe has been unknown to any other people, ancient or modern. The consequences of these establishments we see and feel every day [written in 1765]. A native of America who cannot read and write is as rare ... as a comet or an earthquake." John Adams 


Principle 24 - A free people will not survive unless they stay strong. "To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace." - George Washington 


Principle 25 - "Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations -- entangling alliances with none." - Thomas Jefferson, given in his first inaugural address. 


Principle 26 - The core unit which determines the strength of any society is the family; therefore the government should foster and protect its integrity. "There is certainly no country in the world where the tie of marriage is more respected than in America, or where conjugal happiness is more highly or worthily appreciated." Alexis de Tocqueville 


Principle 27 - The burden of debt is as destructive to human freedom as subjugation by conquest. "We are bound to defray expenses [of the war] within our own time, and are unauthorized to burden posterity with them.... We shall all consider ourselves morally bound to pay them ourselves and consequently within the life [expectancy] of the majority." - Thomas Jefferson 


Principle 28 - The United States has a manifest destiny to eventually become a glorious example of God's law under a restored Constitution that will inspire the entire human race. The Founders sensed from the very beginning that they were on a divine mission. Their great disappointment was that it didn't all come to pass in their day, but they knew that someday it would. John Adams wrote: "I always consider the settlement of America with reverence and wonder, as the opening of a grand scene and design in Providence for the illumination of the ignorant, and the emancipation of the slavish part of mankind all over the earth."